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Dick Cavett talks to Mark about the transition from writing for Jack Paar to Johnny Carson, meeting Johnny for the first time as a child in a church basement in Nebraska, and Johnny’s belief that Cavett was the only one that could have seriously given him competition.
One of my all-time faves. What “a get”. I haven’t enjoyed a podcast this much in a looong time. “You belong in this business!”
Another great conversation. Cavett was/is always a great blend of intelligence, wit and charm. To your credit you are tapping into this rich vein of entertainment history.
Well done!
I’ve looked at, listened to, and read every Cavett interview I could find and this superb one is the most unusual in many ways. It is sensational, but always have two microphones, one for the guest, which you’ve apparently subsequently resolved, and try not to interrupt quite so incessantly: Landis would insist on finishing his stories but Cavett is more laid back and repeatedly kept getting cut off just as a story was getting becoming most compellingg. Otherwise, this interview is a treasure in that there’s nothing else remotely like it out there. Bravo, Mark, for bringing it into existence. By the way, when Cavett’s show was on against Carson’s, as Landis noted, it was much more intelligent and fascinating than Carson’s, and in fact the only colleges of that era that had Carson playing on the dormitory TVs in the early 70s were the military schools. Cavett eclipsed Carson among discerning viewers, unfortunately always a minority that was literally systematically marginalized by the Neilsen ratings’ practices, which in turn dumbed down television in general. I think that Cavett, by dint of the sheer quality of his shows, will be more well known in the distant future and his episodes will eventually be watched more avidly over time while Carson’s comparatively fall by the wayside, the reverse of current perception but jibes with what was happening when they were current and concurrent. This is already beginning to occur. Thirty years from now, you might be hosting the Cavett Podcast instead.